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Post by Toasty4you on Mar 2, 2007 19:43:53 GMT -5
Grrrrrr.. stop with the burning in hell thing!
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Post by MarioOfTheStars on Mar 2, 2007 19:44:43 GMT -5
Grrrrrr.. stop with the burning in hell thing! You can't expect something you said to simply 'go away'.
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Post by Kocrspinal on Mar 2, 2007 20:19:37 GMT -5
Yes. It says that if we do not believe in Christ Jesus, and the blood he shed for us, we will not be let into heaven. It says that when we die, we will go before God to be judged. He will go over anything good or bad that happened in our lives. Then, we will either be let into heaven, or go into hell. It all adds up to us going and spreading the word about Christianity. We believe that we're saving lives, one at a time. But... Death is a hard subject to talk about, because no one has ever experienced death and come back to talk about it. So if I have a friend of another religion, he burns in Hell? To be blunt, yes. But you can try to change their minds.
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Post by MarioOfTheStars on Mar 2, 2007 20:45:57 GMT -5
So if I have a friend of another religion, he burns in Hell? To be blunt, yes. But you can try to change their minds. -_-
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Post by Toasty4you on Mar 2, 2007 20:50:23 GMT -5
To be blunt, yes. But you can try to change their minds. -_- He's completely right, I mean, God did create the entire universe! He also created us, so he has a right to burn non-believers. What if you were a supreme God, and everyone thought you were fake?
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Post by MarioOfTheStars on Mar 2, 2007 20:54:32 GMT -5
He's completely right, I mean, God did create the entire universe! He also created us, so he has a right to burn non-believers. What if you were a supreme God, and everyone thought you were fake? You can't win em' all...
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Post by Gleasonator on Mar 3, 2007 12:43:41 GMT -5
You guys are crazy. We've been through this before. Well, I thank Austin for keeping his sanity.
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Post by odd odd on Mar 3, 2007 15:44:21 GMT -5
He's completely right, I mean, God did create the entire universe! He also created us, so he has a right to burn non-believers. What if you were a supreme God, and everyone thought you were fake? Wait, wait, wait. God doesn't want us to burn in hell. It's more so based on our decisions. He's not going to be like, "I never liked you, Jacqui, so off you go to hell." It's not like that at all. He wishes that we would believe in Him and His son. But we're the ones that have the freedom to believe what we want; we get to choose what happens to us in the afterlife. And humans don't all believe in the same things...
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Post by Gleasonator on Mar 3, 2007 17:06:25 GMT -5
First of all it's God's decision who goes to Hell, not any of yours. Second of all, it would be stupid to send someone to Hell just because they don't believe in you. As long as you're a good person you should be OK. Am I the only one who believes that God is just?
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Post by MarioOfTheStars on Mar 3, 2007 17:11:10 GMT -5
First of all it's God's decision who goes to Hell, not any of yours. Second of all, it would be stupid to send someone to Hell just because they don't believe in you. As long as you're a good person you should be OK. Am I the only one who believes that God is just? Nope. I'm with you on this. If he has shown no sight of himself, then he can't expect all of us to believe in him.
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Post by Trogdor on Mar 3, 2007 18:25:29 GMT -5
Gleasonator, Please ban religion from these forums.
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Post by MarioOfTheStars on Mar 3, 2007 18:27:15 GMT -5
Gleasonator, Please ban religion from these forums. Has Religion been spamming? Has he posted something mean? If Religion hasn't broken any rules, then I'm afraid he cannot be banned. XD
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Post by Mantis on Mar 3, 2007 19:03:19 GMT -5
You're not serious, are you? Not what the Bible says. -- His book.
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Post by Snargle on Mar 3, 2007 19:10:48 GMT -5
You're not serious, are you? Not what the Bible says. -- His book. So Mantis you say that any one who has never heard of Jesus Christ will burn in hell?
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Post by Mantis on Mar 3, 2007 19:48:40 GMT -5
You're not serious, are you? Not what the Bible says. -- His book. So Mantis you say that any one who has never heard of Jesus Christ will burn in hell? No, I'm not too sure about that. I believe he only lets that happen to the people who have heard about him, but don't believe and love him. I think this is where non-Christians start to think of Him like He's Santa Claus, but we're dead serious. He lets things die for a reason. Suppose He let a baby die in birth as punishment for the parents. Maybe it wasn't even punishment, suppose it's just to keep them from wanting one so desperatly. Or maybe even to change some particular thoughts of those parents. But anyway, I believe that He gives another chance at life to people who have never heard of Him. But I'm not sure how he does it, so one day i'll have to ask Him.
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Post by Toasty4you on Mar 3, 2007 21:06:05 GMT -5
The way God works is such a big concept for our tiny little brains.
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Post by Balmung Of The Azure Sky on Mar 3, 2007 21:12:44 GMT -5
First of all it's God's decision who goes to Hell, not any of yours. Second of all, it would be stupid to send someone to Hell just because they don't believe in you. As long as you're a good person you should be OK. Am I the only one who believes that God is just? I don't believe it's his decision at all. WE make our own choices, and depending on what choices we make, it will result in Heaven or Hell. And he can't send people to Hell, the people send themselves to Hell because of the choices they make.
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Post by Trogdor on Mar 3, 2007 21:14:35 GMT -5
I agree with Balmung.
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Post by Balmung Of The Azure Sky on Mar 3, 2007 21:20:55 GMT -5
And what about all the other religions in the world, is ever single Muslim, or Jew going to Hell because they never learned about Christ? That's not fair, it's like they were never given a chance! And doesn't every other individual of every other religion believe that THEY are right and that they are going to their "Heaven"? So can we really say we are right, and that we are the only true religion? I don't know where all the people of all the other religions go when they die, but I don't think it's at all fair to send them straight to Hell. What I think God would do is to have several different "Heavens" and if a Muslim died, and he followed whatever the Muslim rules are, and was a good Muslim, he'd go the "good" place that Muslims go when they die, not to Hell.
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Post by MarioOfTheStars on Mar 3, 2007 21:31:15 GMT -5
And what about all the other religions in the world, is ever single Muslim, or Jew going to Hell because they never learned about Christ? That's not fair, it's like they were never given a chance! And doesn't every other individual of every other religion believe that THEY are right and that they are going to their "Heaven"? So can we really say we are right, and that we are the only true religion? I don't know where all the people of all the other religions go when they die, but I don't think it's at all fair to send them straight to Hell. What I think God would do is to have several different "Heavens" and if a Muslim died, and he followed whatever the Muslim rules are, and was a good Muslim, he'd go the "good" place that Muslims go when they die, not to Hell. I agree completely.
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Post by Trogdor on Mar 3, 2007 21:35:16 GMT -5
And what about all the other religions in the world, is ever single Muslim, or Jew going to Hell because they never learned about Christ? That's not fair, it's like they were never given a chance! And doesn't every other individual of every other religion believe that THEY are right and that they are going to their "Heaven"? So can we really say we are right, and that we are the only true religion? I don't know where all the people of all the other religions go when they die, but I don't think it's at all fair to send them straight to Hell. What I think God would do is to have several different "Heavens" and if a Muslim died, and he followed whatever the Muslim rules are, and was a good Muslim, he'd go the "good" place that Muslims go when they die, not to Hell. ... Can we Please stop talking about this stuff? I have enough things to think about in my head.
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Post by Toasty4you on Mar 3, 2007 21:40:32 GMT -5
All of you are making my head hurt.
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Post by Balmung Of The Azure Sky on Mar 3, 2007 21:41:13 GMT -5
I doubt we will stop until everyone agrees on one thing.
Just don't come to this thread if it's so painful.
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Post by Toasty4you on Mar 3, 2007 21:42:50 GMT -5
I agree. I will try not to come back.
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Post by MarioOfTheStars on Mar 3, 2007 21:48:13 GMT -5
It will be very hard to avoid... But if no one posts, then I won't post. I really don't wanna talk about creation as much as I used too...
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Post by odd odd on Mar 3, 2007 21:58:35 GMT -5
(edit) *coughs* whoops. My bad. I posted. xD (end edit)
There will always be debates about this stuff (in real life and on the internet), you gotta get used to it. After all, everyone has there opinions on the afterlife.
That's true. It might not be fair. But, then again, life isn't always fair. And you never know exactly what happens in death until you actually die.
There are some people who believe that once you die, your soul dies along with you. Then, you're never are concious again. If your idea was true, what would happen to those people?
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Post by Balmung Of The Azure Sky on Mar 3, 2007 22:03:33 GMT -5
Their belief would come true
If God would let all the other religions go to their separate "Heaven", then why should he keep those individuals from going where they believe you go when you die?
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Post by Toasty4you on Mar 3, 2007 22:04:44 GMT -5
No.. must not post.. ahhh..! Anyway, a pretty much agree on everything odd odd says about the Christian faith. By the way, I'm Lutheran, what are you?
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Post by Balmung Of The Azure Sky on Mar 3, 2007 22:08:01 GMT -5
Lutheran.
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Post by Toasty4you on Mar 3, 2007 22:10:42 GMT -5
Woah, I never knew you were Lutheran too!
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