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Post by Toasty4you on May 10, 2007 21:09:04 GMT -5
Debate with me, ask me any question and we can argue. Beware, I am almost certain to win. It can be about basically anything, but we have to disagree on the topic.
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Post by odd odd on May 10, 2007 21:10:40 GMT -5
Haha, riight. xD
Nathan, what's your view on the three natures of man: good, evil, and the soul struggling in between? What do you think we, as humans, are? Do you think we could ever reach a point on this earth where some normal person doesn't do anything evil in his lifetime (other than Jesus...)?
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Post by TheYellowStain on May 10, 2007 21:23:17 GMT -5
whats your view on the subject of abortions?do you think we abortions are nessicary for stem cell research? or will we find a way to aquire stem cells elsewhere?do you think abortions are moral? will they still be leagle?
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Post by Toasty4you on May 10, 2007 21:23:29 GMT -5
I good man deserves to live a happy and righteous life. An evil one deserves to rot in hell and die a very painful death (like in an Iron Maiden or something.) Inbetweeners deserve nothing special, just normal people I suppose.
Animals.
Heck no! That's just screwed up, it's probably the opposite anyway.
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Post by Toasty4you on May 10, 2007 21:26:22 GMT -5
They're completely idiotic, plus, who wants to kill babies anyway? That's ungodly and immoral, not to mention completely disgusting. If you sleep with your boyfriend/girlfriend then it's your fault for not having safe sex and wearing a condom anway.
Of course not.
Scientists are pretty smart, they can find a way.
They're the opposite.
Let's pray to God not.
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Post by TheYellowStain on May 10, 2007 21:27:30 GMT -5
but how can people be evil, if it is based on phycological issues or victims of circumstance.
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Post by odd odd on May 10, 2007 21:31:47 GMT -5
Ooh, Justin brought up a good topic to debate about. But you also brought up points in your response to me... I good man deserves to live a happy and righteous life. An evil one deserves to rot in hell and die a very painful death (like in an Iron Maiden or something.) Inbetweeners deserve nothing special, just normal people I suppose. But do you think that in reality "Good things happen to bad people, and bad things happen to good people"? Uhh... we're animals mentally or just physically? xD Heck no! That's just screwed up, it's probably the opposite anyway. How is it screwed up for one person to have no evil in him/her...? Because it's not based on all of that. It's in our nature to sin. We, as humans, were brought up in sin and evil, and we were taught to avoid some sins, but we still do sin.
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Post by TheYellowStain on May 10, 2007 21:32:02 GMT -5
what about rape victims? do they deserve to have a child involuntarily? and what if you are paralyzed from the neck down. wouldnt you want to be better?think about it, everyday...unable to do anything, but think and observe, unable to comunicate your feelings....stem cells can help you.
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Post by TheYellowStain on May 10, 2007 21:35:46 GMT -5
we sin because, it to sin is a religious stricture based on our primal instincts, about what we like, and what makes us feel better...Gluttony-food to make us feel better, Lust- people to make us feel better in "other ways.." Pride to make us feel better by our-selves and our accomplishments.
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Post by odd odd on May 10, 2007 21:40:35 GMT -5
what about rape victims? do they deserve to have a child involuntarily? They were fairly evil before the rape. As for the rape victim, they do not deserve the child that they might have, or the disease they might get. But it's the evil in this world. We, as humans, were given the freedom to choose for ourselves. Some people choose to live a life bent on evil, hurting others in turn. I think my pastor said it once... "Hurt people hurt people." It's simple - we were raised in evil, and something wrong happened to us. We choose to go after others because of our pain inside.
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Post by odd odd on May 10, 2007 21:46:04 GMT -5
we sin because, it to sin is a religious stricture based on our primal instincts, about what we like, and what makes us feel better...Gluttony-food to make us feel better, Lust- people to make us feel better in "other ways.." Pride to make us feel better by our-selves and our accomplishments. The 7 deadly sins...? xD I'm more into the Ten Commandments... considering those 7 only scrape what is said by the Ten Commandments. But I don't really believe it's what makes us feel better. Sin entered the world with Adam and Eve, but before that they were naive. They could've sinned, and they wouldn't have known. There was no sin around them for them to immitate, but they still disobeyed what God instructed them to do. I believe it's the fact that we have the freedom to choose, and we don't want to obey what we're told.
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Post by Toasty4you on May 11, 2007 8:18:57 GMT -5
Physically, we're just a special kind of animal that God favors more then the others.
No, I'm just saying that I think it is impossible for that to happen.
They have a brain.
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Post by SkullFarmer on May 22, 2007 13:07:21 GMT -5
If God can do anything, can he create a rock that he, himself, cannot lift?
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Post by Kirei on May 22, 2007 14:31:57 GMT -5
There was a poem once when I was at a speech meet that was kinda a light-hearted version of god creating things.. but to the point.. In the poem there was the angle, and the angel told god that one brother had just killed the other. God was shocked and thought he should start all over again right away. But then the angel pointed out to God that if he was going to start over, then he was going to wipe out (kill) everything that he had already created. I don't know if that makes much sense, but I got to thinking of that when I read some of this. I think it is because it shows that we have to fix our own mistakes and not expect god to fix them all for us (because he can't)..? --Shirimasen-- -----~-~-~-~-~-~-~----- as for abortions.. I am for. We say that they deserve to live because they are people too. But that is just it. We are bringing new life to this world and we are going to have to explain to it that the reason it doesn't have a father was because it wasn't supposed to happen, or that the mother was attacked, or just cover it all up with a lie and have it be brought to an adoption place where the parents that arn't it's will have to take over where the bio parent could not. Why bring that onto yet ANOTHER human being in this world? I think the parents should choose what they feel is right. If they can't bring it up in a way they would want to bring up their kid (if they weren't ready, or they can't support it) then why force that upon them? Why..? They were fairly evil before the rape. I'm astonished.. are you saying.. they kinda deserve it?.. (did I interpret that wrong?) ...
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Post by Toasty4you on May 22, 2007 17:06:17 GMT -5
If God can do anything, can he create a rock that he, himself, cannot lift? If he wishes.
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Post by Trogdor on May 22, 2007 17:22:27 GMT -5
If God can do anything, can he create a rock that he, himself, cannot lift? Great. your going to have me thinking about that all day.
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Post by minimcbeef on May 22, 2007 17:26:53 GMT -5
Hm.... yes, what do YOU think the educational effects of clay in the late 1300's were? I believe it was the fact that there was a lot of it in the fields. Also, do you believe your head asplode? And thirdly, Trogdor, why did you post in this duplicate thread of the thread "Daily Debate", and take out my new "Extreme Sports" thread I worked for an hour and a half on?
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Post by odd odd on May 22, 2007 17:38:07 GMT -5
They were fairly evil before the rape. I'm astonished.. are you saying.. they kinda deserve it?.. (did I interpret that wrong?) ... Ooh, ooh, no, no, no. That's not what I meant. I typed that the wrong way. o.o When I said that I was meaning that evil resides in our hearts anyways. We're hurting each other. Rape victims weren't meant to be raped. Aggh. I kind of morphed two thoughts together. It came out wrong. Sorry. >.< Okay: What I believe is we do wrongs and we are punished for our wrongs. This punishment is to help us conquer some of the bad in us. But not with rape. Rape is just someone physically, mentally, and emotionally hurting someone else just for pleasure. It wasn't to set the person straight at all. It's the evil in this world that made the raper do that. Rape is never deserved.
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Post by Trogdor on May 22, 2007 21:16:31 GMT -5
Hm.... yes, what do YOU think the educational effects of clay in the late 1300's were? I believe it was the fact that there was a lot of it in the fields. Also, do you believe your head asplode? And thirdly, Trogdor, why did you post in this duplicate thread of the thread "Daily Debate", and take out my new "Extreme Sports" thread I worked for an hour and a half on? What new extreme sport thread?
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Post by TheYellowStain on May 23, 2007 6:58:13 GMT -5
well seeing that all your answers lie in your religion...as god can do anything, and everything...this thread seems pointless as it will only originate to one thing.
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Post by Kirei on May 23, 2007 11:04:45 GMT -5
Ooh, ooh, no, no, no. That's not what I meant. I typed that the wrong way. o.o Phew, ok -- good! I wasn't sure about what I was reading there for a second. But yes, the waters have cleared now~
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Post by SkullFarmer on May 23, 2007 14:28:37 GMT -5
If God can do anything, can he create a rock that he, himself, cannot lift? If he wishes. Was that your argument?
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Post by Toasty4you on May 23, 2007 16:40:41 GMT -5
You never posted your opinion on what you think would happen.
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Post by SkullFarmer on May 23, 2007 16:44:04 GMT -5
You never posted your opinion on what you think would happen. I asked the first question. You supply the first answer.
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Post by Toasty4you on May 23, 2007 16:57:10 GMT -5
You never posted your opinion on what you think would happen. I asked the first question. You supply the first answer. Then I guess that was my argument.
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Post by Kirei on May 23, 2007 22:51:14 GMT -5
You never posted your opinion on what you think would happen. I asked the first question. You supply the first answer. awh, don't pull that skull farmer! I think you both should give an answer. After all, if you are asking a question, you are either seeing if someone has the same answer as you; or you are seeing what they think the answer is and learning from them. In this case, I think you just want to see what he says and then pown him for not finding an answer without any loop holes!
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